It's clear to me now - that the reason that Bernie and Elizabeth can't fully get their message across is because the two of them know just how much money the top 1% of wealth-holders in our country have siphoned away from all of the rest of us. Most people can't fathom these amounts.
** 7:48 **
I can't believe Delaney has come back with his "my dad..." line. That's kind of awesome.
** 7:49 **
Talking 'bout my generation. Mayor Pete has called out his generation several times. He's a few years younger than me, but he's in the Cusper mini-generation. I was born in 1978 so technically I had a few years before the "Reagan Revolution" kicked in. Pete did not.
He has literally lived his entire life in an era when money has floated upward (it's more like steam than "trickle down" water) and decimated the middle class.
** 7:54 **
Just realized that i had paused to fix a drink and chase the puppy around the back yard and stop him from eating all the freshly cut grass, so I'm a few minutes behind... Which will make this post hard to track.
I'll try to remember when i'm caught up after a commercial.
** 7:56 **
Ugh... The CNN format is really unfortunate. Bash and Tapper (Lemon hasn't spoken yet, it seems) are being prosecutorial, but getting stuck on dumb points of argument. "But are you going to raise taxes!!!..." "But should we decriminalize crossing the border!!!..."
They seem to think they are on a Sunday show trying to stick one guest to a specific answer. It's like they think they all are the guy from The Newsroom.
** 8:03 **
Mayor Pete made himself seem young again! He was in high school during Columbine!
But Amy is seeming tough. She's cool A bit conservative for my taste, but yeah - she would win.
** 8:05 **
But yeah, Governor Bullock - he will likely lose.
** 8:06 **
I wonder how you say "drain the swamp" en espanol?
(that's a Beto joke)
** 8:12 **
Almost caught up now... And, yeah - Hickenlooper is still on the lose list.
He is a look-back candidate. He's grown up and gonna make things nice, but not shake things up too much.
Governor Hickenlooper, please listen - nobody likes their health insurance company. They may want to have health insurance (rather than not!), but everyone hates the company that bureaucratically manages their insurance. They don't even care about insurance. They care about health care. That's what they want without going broke.
** 8:15 **
Ugh, now CNN has the question written "is Senator Sanders too extreme to beat President Trump?". Fuck you, CNN. That's so CNN of you.
** 8:19 **
Delaney is getting a lot of screen time...
It's mostly grinning waiting to talk time.
When he talks, he really hurts his chances.
(the Delaney haiku
{and NO!, haikus don't need to be a specific number of syllables - it's about being able to say within a single breath [though, i'm not sure if that's each line or the whole thing, in which case mine may not apply]})
** 8:26 **
Starting with Delaney on the climate crisis. He seems to be getting a lot of time... Maybe that means Yang will tomorrow?
I hope he tells about what his dad used to say about the sky.
** 8:32 **
Oh God!!! Tim Ryan, i like you and the funny way you say some of your vowels. But NO!!! Let's not base our future plan on "making things in 'Merica again".
Robots should be making things. And yes, we will have a lot of people - a whole generation of people who work and worked with their hands. And you want them to elect you, but don't lie to them.
Those people need to be given health care and food and a UBI (a "freedom dividend!"), and then they can work in other industries.
** 8:45 **
Sorry, paused for several minutes and am behind again.
** 8:46 **
"Look, Bernie..." Bullock doesn't seem sure that climate change is real yet.
Ugh.
And Beto, stop talking about jobs. Work, democrats should talk about work and not jobs.
But Mayor Pete scores! Pete v. Don and how Pete wins...
** 8:47 **
Where have all the 60 second questions gone?
** 8:50 **
I expect that my groups will change in terms of who will win and may lose to The Donald.
** 8:53 **
"Domestic Terrorism" and "I Have a Plan" - It's hard to not see Warren as the natural choice to take the nomination in 2020 for Bernie voters of 2016.
I love Bernie - I actually love a lot of these folks tonight... and will vote for any one of them who wins. But, Warren is a serious political plan person and also a movement candidate (not a revolution candidate - though she's that too, but a movement candidate).
Warren reminds me a lot of my mom - she's an earnest broker. She's honest, she is tough and she is kind.
** 9:01 **
Oh my gawd - Tim Ryan STILL wants to give me another boss - a Chief Manufacturing Officer. I have caught up somewhat, but still behind. And starting to realize that this is a fucking 3 HOUR debate!!!
wtf CNN?
Like, I'm a political nerd, but 3 hours? 6 hours of debates?
** 9:04 **
Delaney loves TPP... Who's down with TPP (oh, just John Delaney). Also Hilary Clinton (until she wasn't) and Obama, and probably Biden (i wish we could find a way to ask him)...
** 9:06 **
Love a re-direct to Beto... Yeah, i'm sure he'll know.
Nope, he doesn't, but bueno efforto, mi amigo.
** 9:10 **
Buttigieg is still young. Younger than you (statistically).
And he knows scripture!
** 9:12 **
a softball "my dad" question for Delaney. He has mentioned his family. But turned it around to capital gains move.
Yes, he's exactly right (and also totally wrong) - capital gains should be taxed at (or higher) than a working rate of tax.
** 9:32 **
Can we use nuclear bombs?
- CNN 7/30/2019
Argle Barlge!!!! Stop it. Why are you so bad at this!?
If you don't understand global nuclear politics, don't talk about it, please!
I use the same policy for our fool president. He shouldn't talk about nukes publicly, because he doesn't understand (can't understand - hasn't the empathy).
** 9:38 **
Just starting back up - and we're to closing statements!
So, it's only 2 and a half hours!
Bullock - "Bootstraps!"
Williamson - "down with Corporate Overlords!"
Delaney - "Can't we all just get along?"
Ryan - "there is some difference between the center lane and the moderate lane, right?"
Hickenlooper - "it's possible you may die tomorrow"
Klobuchar - "It's not your fault" (repeated ad goodwill hunting-ium)
O'Rourke - "Texas could be in play?"
Buttigeig - "Rut Roh - but i can fix it"
Warren - "I understand your life, and I can help"
Sanders - "I'm Bernie Sanders... wtf, why not vote for me at this point - seriously?"
Night Two!
** 7:17 **
Why was Michael Bennett talking so slowly? Is that all he came up with for his minute, and wanted to make sure he finished too soon?
But De Blasio was on point... "Tax the hell out of 'em" makes for a good bumper sticker.
** 7:20 **
We're going back, to the Future!
** 7:24 **
Not sure what the protesters were yelling...
But Yang was very likable and articulate in a way he wasn't in June.
** 7:27 **
I like how Biden's campaign is a "they" for Harris's health care answer, but her planning is done by an "I"
** 7:34 **
Is anyone else kinda bored? It's like all the back and forth, but none of the knowledge.
** 7:37 **
Tulsi quoted Marianne Williamson...
** 7:42 **
It seems that these candidates watched last night's debate, and are trying to do it again - but don't know as much.
Are they intentionally ignoring Andrew Yang?
** 7:45 **
Yang nailed his first question!
** 7:50 **
Biden says "Anyway..." and basically said, "my time is up..." again.
** 7:55 **
Oh, going back to Biden?
Neat.
Also he can't seem to remember anyone's names. And Castro had to tell him that he could go on, and that "that things on" and we can hear him.
** 8:03 **
Had to make a vodka tonic, so i'm a bit behind now.
But Yang!, man. I wonder if he is going to be the one to finally stop the Marianne Williamson bubble nonsense from last night. He is saying totally different things than anyone else, but it's not malarky (ha!, see what i did there?)
** 8:08 **
I kind of wish FiveThirtyEight was tracking mentions of Obama, too... because Biden seems to say Obama most times he talks tonight...
** 8:11 **
He said "Shit!"
** 8:12 **
Fuck, seriously, you're going back to Biden!!!
** 8:13 **
Biden's teeth are super white.
And wants to teach prisoners how to read and write...
Fuck, and now he cut himself off again and volunteered to stop talking.
** 8:15 **
And now he seems to have mistaken Cory Booker for Barack Obama...
** 8:19 **
"I want to bring in Mr. Yang. I want to bring Mr. Yang!!"
- not any of the CNN moderators, that's for sure
** 8:23 **
Oh, right - Kamala Harris is here, too...
I totally forgot that you go here!
** 8:26 **
Shit, Biden looked up some facts about how racist Harris and Booker are.
That looks not great, n'est ce pas?
** 8:28 **
Yeah, Harris being a former prosecutor is not going to wear well as a democrat. It's a better job for republican candidates, methinks.
I'm not sure what a fancy position on a stage is...
** 8:31 **
Yang is the 4th highest polling candidate on the stage. I don't think he has received the 4th highest number of re-directs or direct questions to him.
I'm not even in the #yangGang yet, but see this as mass media prejudice against radical thought.
** 8:35 **
Huh, so MLK DID support UBI... #freedomDividend
** 8:41 **
Why won't anyone look at the fucking camera!!!???
Well, now they switched cameras, so at least Biden is in the general direction.
** 8:51 **
I read on Five Thirty Eight that Elizabeth Warren showed up in tonight's debate too... hearing a lot of blah blah blah so reading a bit further afield while they catch up on screen.
** 9:11 **
Fuck - just got woken up when Biden tried to jujitsu the lady question by bringing up his dead wife...
** 9:31 **
ok, i'm back for closing statements:
De Blasio: "tax the hell out of 'em & taxTheHell.com"
Bennett: "___" (forgot i was listening)
Inslee: "but this time, it really matters..."
Gillebrand: "I'm a rich, Christian, white person who cares about economic divides, religious divides, and racial divides, for serious."
Gabbard: "World War 2 is over... we're gonna go home now..."
Castro: "adios to Donald Trump"
Yang: "I hate ties... and i should win"
Booker: "back to the reality tv show!"
Harris: "you've got to prey just to make it today..."
Biden: "3-0-3-0... what was that?"
A summary image, again, from 5-38:
Yang's (of course last, because of alphabetical, but nobody is talking about the alphabetical-disparity in the two night's debates! The second latest letter in the alphabet is I! Fracking I! Two Americas indeed.) is kind of a sentence or a thought...
Bennet's might be better, actually, but the rest of these candidates make absolutely no sense!
** 7:48 **
I can't believe Delaney has come back with his "my dad..." line. That's kind of awesome.
** 7:49 **
Talking 'bout my generation. Mayor Pete has called out his generation several times. He's a few years younger than me, but he's in the Cusper mini-generation. I was born in 1978 so technically I had a few years before the "Reagan Revolution" kicked in. Pete did not.
He has literally lived his entire life in an era when money has floated upward (it's more like steam than "trickle down" water) and decimated the middle class.
** 7:54 **
Just realized that i had paused to fix a drink and chase the puppy around the back yard and stop him from eating all the freshly cut grass, so I'm a few minutes behind... Which will make this post hard to track.
I'll try to remember when i'm caught up after a commercial.
** 7:56 **
Ugh... The CNN format is really unfortunate. Bash and Tapper (Lemon hasn't spoken yet, it seems) are being prosecutorial, but getting stuck on dumb points of argument. "But are you going to raise taxes!!!..." "But should we decriminalize crossing the border!!!..."
They seem to think they are on a Sunday show trying to stick one guest to a specific answer. It's like they think they all are the guy from The Newsroom.
** 8:03 **
Mayor Pete made himself seem young again! He was in high school during Columbine!
But Amy is seeming tough. She's cool A bit conservative for my taste, but yeah - she would win.
** 8:05 **
But yeah, Governor Bullock - he will likely lose.
** 8:06 **
I wonder how you say "drain the swamp" en espanol?
(that's a Beto joke)
** 8:12 **
Almost caught up now... And, yeah - Hickenlooper is still on the lose list.
He is a look-back candidate. He's grown up and gonna make things nice, but not shake things up too much.
Governor Hickenlooper, please listen - nobody likes their health insurance company. They may want to have health insurance (rather than not!), but everyone hates the company that bureaucratically manages their insurance. They don't even care about insurance. They care about health care. That's what they want without going broke.
** 8:15 **
Ugh, now CNN has the question written "is Senator Sanders too extreme to beat President Trump?". Fuck you, CNN. That's so CNN of you.
** 8:19 **
Delaney is getting a lot of screen time...
It's mostly grinning waiting to talk time.
When he talks, he really hurts his chances.
(the Delaney haiku
{and NO!, haikus don't need to be a specific number of syllables - it's about being able to say within a single breath [though, i'm not sure if that's each line or the whole thing, in which case mine may not apply]})
** 8:26 **
Starting with Delaney on the climate crisis. He seems to be getting a lot of time... Maybe that means Yang will tomorrow?
I hope he tells about what his dad used to say about the sky.
** 8:32 **
Oh God!!! Tim Ryan, i like you and the funny way you say some of your vowels. But NO!!! Let's not base our future plan on "making things in 'Merica again".
Robots should be making things. And yes, we will have a lot of people - a whole generation of people who work and worked with their hands. And you want them to elect you, but don't lie to them.
Those people need to be given health care and food and a UBI (a "freedom dividend!"), and then they can work in other industries.
** 8:45 **
Sorry, paused for several minutes and am behind again.
** 8:46 **
"Look, Bernie..." Bullock doesn't seem sure that climate change is real yet.
Ugh.
And Beto, stop talking about jobs. Work, democrats should talk about work and not jobs.
But Mayor Pete scores! Pete v. Don and how Pete wins...
** 8:47 **
Where have all the 60 second questions gone?
** 8:50 **
I expect that my groups will change in terms of who will win and may lose to The Donald.
** 8:53 **
"Domestic Terrorism" and "I Have a Plan" - It's hard to not see Warren as the natural choice to take the nomination in 2020 for Bernie voters of 2016.
I love Bernie - I actually love a lot of these folks tonight... and will vote for any one of them who wins. But, Warren is a serious political plan person and also a movement candidate (not a revolution candidate - though she's that too, but a movement candidate).
Warren reminds me a lot of my mom - she's an earnest broker. She's honest, she is tough and she is kind.
** 9:01 **
Oh my gawd - Tim Ryan STILL wants to give me another boss - a Chief Manufacturing Officer. I have caught up somewhat, but still behind. And starting to realize that this is a fucking 3 HOUR debate!!!
wtf CNN?
Like, I'm a political nerd, but 3 hours? 6 hours of debates?
** 9:04 **
Delaney loves TPP... Who's down with TPP (oh, just John Delaney). Also Hilary Clinton (until she wasn't) and Obama, and probably Biden (i wish we could find a way to ask him)...
** 9:06 **
Love a re-direct to Beto... Yeah, i'm sure he'll know.
Nope, he doesn't, but bueno efforto, mi amigo.
** 9:10 **
Buttigieg is still young. Younger than you (statistically).
And he knows scripture!
** 9:12 **
a softball "my dad" question for Delaney. He has mentioned his family. But turned it around to capital gains move.
Yes, he's exactly right (and also totally wrong) - capital gains should be taxed at (or higher) than a working rate of tax.
** 9:32 **
Can we use nuclear bombs?
- CNN 7/30/2019
Argle Barlge!!!! Stop it. Why are you so bad at this!?
If you don't understand global nuclear politics, don't talk about it, please!
I use the same policy for our fool president. He shouldn't talk about nukes publicly, because he doesn't understand (can't understand - hasn't the empathy).
** 9:38 **
Just starting back up - and we're to closing statements!
So, it's only 2 and a half hours!
Bullock - "Bootstraps!"
Williamson - "down with Corporate Overlords!"
Delaney - "Can't we all just get along?"
Ryan - "there is some difference between the center lane and the moderate lane, right?"
Hickenlooper - "it's possible you may die tomorrow"
Klobuchar - "It's not your fault" (repeated ad goodwill hunting-ium)
O'Rourke - "Texas could be in play?"
Buttigeig - "Rut Roh - but i can fix it"
Warren - "I understand your life, and I can help"
Sanders - "I'm Bernie Sanders... wtf, why not vote for me at this point - seriously?"
Night Two!
** 7:17 **
Why was Michael Bennett talking so slowly? Is that all he came up with for his minute, and wanted to make sure he finished too soon?
But De Blasio was on point... "Tax the hell out of 'em" makes for a good bumper sticker.
** 7:20 **
We're going back, to the Future!
** 7:24 **
Not sure what the protesters were yelling...
But Yang was very likable and articulate in a way he wasn't in June.
** 7:27 **
I like how Biden's campaign is a "they" for Harris's health care answer, but her planning is done by an "I"
** 7:34 **
Is anyone else kinda bored? It's like all the back and forth, but none of the knowledge.
** 7:37 **
Tulsi quoted Marianne Williamson...
** 7:42 **
It seems that these candidates watched last night's debate, and are trying to do it again - but don't know as much.
Are they intentionally ignoring Andrew Yang?
** 7:45 **
Yang nailed his first question!
** 7:50 **
Biden says "Anyway..." and basically said, "my time is up..." again.
** 7:55 **
Oh, going back to Biden?
Neat.
Also he can't seem to remember anyone's names. And Castro had to tell him that he could go on, and that "that things on" and we can hear him.
** 8:03 **
Had to make a vodka tonic, so i'm a bit behind now.
But Yang!, man. I wonder if he is going to be the one to finally stop the Marianne Williamson bubble nonsense from last night. He is saying totally different things than anyone else, but it's not malarky (ha!, see what i did there?)
** 8:08 **
I kind of wish FiveThirtyEight was tracking mentions of Obama, too... because Biden seems to say Obama most times he talks tonight...
** 8:11 **
He said "Shit!"
** 8:12 **
Fuck, seriously, you're going back to Biden!!!
** 8:13 **
Biden's teeth are super white.
And wants to teach prisoners how to read and write...
Fuck, and now he cut himself off again and volunteered to stop talking.
** 8:15 **
And now he seems to have mistaken Cory Booker for Barack Obama...
** 8:19 **
"I want to bring in Mr. Yang. I want to bring Mr. Yang!!"
- not any of the CNN moderators, that's for sure
** 8:23 **
Oh, right - Kamala Harris is here, too...
I totally forgot that you go here!
** 8:26 **
Shit, Biden looked up some facts about how racist Harris and Booker are.
That looks not great, n'est ce pas?
** 8:28 **
Yeah, Harris being a former prosecutor is not going to wear well as a democrat. It's a better job for republican candidates, methinks.
I'm not sure what a fancy position on a stage is...
** 8:31 **
Yang is the 4th highest polling candidate on the stage. I don't think he has received the 4th highest number of re-directs or direct questions to him.
I'm not even in the #yangGang yet, but see this as mass media prejudice against radical thought.
** 8:35 **
Huh, so MLK DID support UBI... #freedomDividend
** 8:41 **
Why won't anyone look at the fucking camera!!!???
Well, now they switched cameras, so at least Biden is in the general direction.
** 8:51 **
I read on Five Thirty Eight that Elizabeth Warren showed up in tonight's debate too... hearing a lot of blah blah blah so reading a bit further afield while they catch up on screen.
** 9:11 **
Fuck - just got woken up when Biden tried to jujitsu the lady question by bringing up his dead wife...
** 9:31 **
ok, i'm back for closing statements:
De Blasio: "tax the hell out of 'em & taxTheHell.com"
Bennett: "___" (forgot i was listening)
Inslee: "but this time, it really matters..."
Gillebrand: "I'm a rich, Christian, white person who cares about economic divides, religious divides, and racial divides, for serious."
Gabbard: "World War 2 is over... we're gonna go home now..."
Castro: "adios to Donald Trump"
Yang: "I hate ties... and i should win"
Booker: "back to the reality tv show!"
Harris: "you've got to prey just to make it today..."
Biden: "3-0-3-0... what was that?"
A summary image, again, from 5-38:
Yang's (of course last, because of alphabetical, but nobody is talking about the alphabetical-disparity in the two night's debates! The second latest letter in the alphabet is I! Fracking I! Two Americas indeed.) is kind of a sentence or a thought...
Bennet's might be better, actually, but the rest of these candidates make absolutely no sense!
